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| | The Autonomist - Logic Fallacies |
 | | Formal fallacies assume the premises are true, so the fallacy results from drawing a conclusion, (an inference) not supported by the premises, even when the premises are true. | | | Formally correct fallacy - (According to the rules, fallacy) Asserts that an action or statement is right or true because it conforms to formal or official rules, laws, standards, protocols, or procedures, when the specific case being argued is an exception or not specifically covered. | | | It is implied, therefore, that the minor premise, "where there is no television, there is less crime," is true. |
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http://usabig.com/autonomist/fallacies.html
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| | Am ha-Aretz / עם הארץ: Falseness: Oral Torah from Sinai |
| | Proposition: [There is no textual evidence for the Oral Torah, but] Textual evidence is not the only valid evidence. | | | Yet, within that, Torah provided NO clue as to what the true intent (re: Oral Law) of what Torah was supposed to be. | | | A unanimous, verbally transmitted position that Moses received the Oral Law proves that the Oral Law was in fact given to Moses at Sinai. |
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http://www.amhaaretz.org/draft/falseness_oral_torah_from_sinai.html
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| | Fallacies [Internet Encyclopedia of Philosophy] |
| | Because informal reasoning regularly deals with hypothetical reasoning and with premises for which there is great disagreement about whether they are true or false, many researchers would relax the requirement that every premise must be true. | | | Nearly all the infinity of types of invalid inferences have no specific fallacy names. | | | One widely accepted definition defines a fallacious argument as one that either is deductively invalid or is inductively very weak or contains an unjustified premise or that ignores relevant evidence that is available and that should be known by the arguer. |
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http://www.utm.edu/research/iep/f/fallacies.htm
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| | defiant penguin |
| | In their statements, both former presidents commit the No True Scotsman fallacy, as does anyone who attempts to add additional requirements to the term American. | | | It must be up to each U.S. citizen to decide whether or not he is a “true” American. | | | If they were citizens of this country, they would have the right to engage the legal system to the fullest extent. |
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http://www.defiantpenguin.net/?sectionid=5
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| | Maverick Philosopher The No True Scotsman Fallacy |
| | The site administrator is under no obligation to accept comments at all, let alone from any particular person. | | | Leaving comments is a privilege, not a right. | | | Smith may respond that McTaggart is not a naturalist as she defines the term. |
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http://maverickphilosopher.powerblogs.com/posts/1128720274.shtml
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| | Catholic Blogic: No true Muslim |
| | Consequently, the fact he committed the crime is taken to prove that he was not really a Scotsman. | | | In this fallacy the fact that a Scotsman commits a particularly terrible crime leads to an arbitrary redefinition of the term Scotsman which excludes the possibility that if he were really a Scotsman he would/could have commited the crime. | | | Have you heard any Muslims arguing that 'no true American' could have been involved in the events at Abu Ghraib prison? |
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http://catholicblogic.blogspot.com/2005/07/no-true-muslim.html
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| | Democracy vs. Democracy: Murdoc Online |
| | Regardless of the legality or true authority of Vichy during WW2, the US didn't invade North Africa to fight against Vichy France. | | | Yes, the "No democracies have EVER fought a war against each other" isn't as 100% waterproof as some claim, though the argument is usually made from a 20th Century-onward point of view, so the War of 1812, US Civil War, etc., are really from "an earlier era" and so on. | | | What I said was that even though democracies can elect governments unfriendly toward the United States, we don't fight them militarily. |
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http://www.murdoconline.net/archives/002851.html
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| | Heretics' almanac: Banning a religion |
| | Inciting to violence is a criminal act, and the law typically doesn't care whether the violence being incited is behalf of a religion, a hair color, or anything else. | | | Fine, in that case there are no "real" Muslims. | | | The haredi think they've got it more right than Young Israel; the Roman Catholic Church believes it professes the one true faith; etc. There is no way to evaluate the relative merits of one claim over the other without buying into one or the other parties' premises. |
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http://vyer.typepad.com/hereticsalmanac/2004/08/banning_a_relig.html
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| | Professor Enigma's Official Site :: Got Facts?: The liberal antidote |
| | The word “Scotsman” refers to a racial/ethnic category; it has absolutely nothing to do with how one takes one’s tea. | | | This logic is generally recognized as a fallacy, known as the No True Scotsman fallacy. | | | This eliminates the first premise of the argument. |
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http://www.freewebs.com/professor_enigma/nts.htm
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| | onegoodmove: Talking to Xtians |
| | It also includes that you do no have the right to legislate your particular spiritual mindset into my life by law of the land. | | | from an objective view, it seems entirely impossible to choose; and also no matter which one you choose, (assuming there is a true one at all) the odds are that you are choosing the wrong one and are going to be punished in some way when you die. | | | For example, there is no evidence that there is a teacup orbiting Jupiter. |
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http://onegoodmove.org/1gm/1gmarchive/002787.html
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| | Dr. Phil.com - Messageboards - Messages for |
| | An assassination, he explains to his television audience, would be cheaper than a war, and that head of state's prized oil reserves would still be made available to the United States, so there's no harm done, right? | | | Meanwhile, shouting heads debate whether Sheehan is sincere or if she is, in the words of one particularly ignorant member of the chattering class, a Democratic Party operative. | | | To further muddy the waters, imagine, if you will, how this is playing overseas: A self- proclaimed "true Christian" - a former U.S. presidential candidate, no less - calls for assassinating a democratically elected head of state. |
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http://www.drphil.com/messageboard/view.user/225051/4
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| | No true Scotsman - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia |
| | It is also a common fallacy in politics, in which critics may condemn their colleagues as not being "true" liberals or conservatives because they occasionally disagree on certain matters of policy. | | | This form of argument is a fallacy if the predicate ("putting sugar on porridge") is not actually contradictory for the accepted definition of the subject ("Scotsman"), or if the definition of the subject is silently adjusted after the fact to make the rebuttal work. | | | If there is no one accepted definition of the subject, then the definition must be understood in context, or defined in the initial argument for the discussion at hand. |
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman
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| | 'No True Scotsman' Fallacy |
| | The no true scotsman fallacy is a way of reinterpreting evidence in order to prevent the refutation of one’s position. | | | Given such an approach, this claim is unfalsifiable, there is no possible refutation of it. | | | This fallacy is a form of circular argument, with an existing belief being assumed to be true in order to dismiss any apparent counter-examples to it. |
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http://www.logicalfallacies.info/notruescotsman.html
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| | One Pill Makes You Smaller, Robert D. Brown III |
| | OAS is the primary source of information on the prevalence and incidence of substance abuse in the United States and the characteristics of those who suffer from these problems. | | | Both premises may in fact be true, but they are not connected by any rigorous application of sound thought. | | | Obviously, the fallacy begs the question of who has the authority to define who a true Scotsman is and what the definition includes. |
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http://www.scifidimensions.com/May01/onepillsmaller.htm
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| | He Lives |
| | No doubt Peter also understood that grace was necessary for justification, but by his actions he was, in effect, stating that in addition to grace one had to act as a Jew and do the works of the law in order to be justified. | | | It is no doubt the case that some of Paul’s teachings were not recorded. | | | The claim of Peter’s supremacy fares no better in Acts. |
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http://helives.blogspot.com
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| | Pax Democritus? by Jason Gonella |
| | Germany is considered to be "not a Democracy" because it was ruled by a monarch and a parliament, just like Great Britain. | | | There is a lot of talk on the internet boards in support of the United States invasion of Iraq based on the theory of Pax Democritus, or the Democratic Peace Theory. | | | The theory is that since democracies do not wage war against democracies, if a democracy were to be established in Iraq, Iraq would no longer be any threat to the United States. |
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http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig3/gonella5.html
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| | Logical Fallacies |
| | For a deductive argument to be a good one (to be “valid”) it must be absolutely impossible for both its premises to be true and its conclusion to be false. | | | Even a good inductive argument with true premises might have a false conclusion; that the argument is a good one and that its premises are true only establishes that its conclusion is probably true. | | | The ‘No True Scotsman’ fallacy, for example, could be classified as a fallacy of ambiguity (an attempt to switch definitions of “Scotsman”) or as a fallacy of presumption (it begs the question, reinterpreting the evidence to fit its conclusion rather than forming its conclusion on the basis of the evidence). |
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http://www.logicalfallacies.info
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| | FreeSpeech.com: Brad DeLong and the "No True Scotsman" argument |
| | Brad DeLong and the "No True Scotsman" argument | | | For the first time in a while, we see someone using the No True Scotsman argument. | | | I think I made it pretty clear I was addressing his "no real economist" argument, not the trade protection. |
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http://www.freespeech.com/archives/001209.html
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| | Style over substance fallacy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia |
| | They're known to be sneaky, because no true member of our party could do something like that! | | | No-one ever has a fire in their house, smoke detectors are a waste of money! | | | Person 2: "So Person 3, we should disband the government and make institutions that give money to the poor!" |
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Style_over_substance_fallacy
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| | Debating Guidelines -- McKinsey's Biblical Errancy Forum Group |
| | Can be illustrated when a conclusion to be proved is presupposed by his premises. | | | Can be illustrated when a position is worded such that only specific alternatives exist. | | | Excellent rules, of course we must bend a few elsewise we give no quarter for the opinions of the religious who stand soley on some of these arguments. |
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http://www.voy.com/67169/48.html
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| | "No True Scotsman" |
| | This ploy is sometimes known as the "No True Scotsman" fallacy. | | | This is an argument that takes the following form: | | | Also, when a Christian runs across other Christian sects that don't agree with his/her personal theological doctrine, he/she can simply claim that the other groups aren't "true" Christians. |
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http://www.geocities.com/b_r_a_d_99/noscotsman.htm
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| | 5.10a |
| | When it is pointed out that a particular person, who is a Scotsman, did it, the response is that the individual in question is not a true Scotsman. | | | By saying no true Scotsman would do something the person making the claim has "poisoned" a well of evidence because he can just say any counter example is not truly a Scotsman. | | | You could just as easily substitute a member of any group for "Scotsman." The nationality or group affiliation isn't important, it's the way the statement, if accepted, eliminates a source of evidence from being considered that is important. |
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http://www.humboldt.edu/~act/HTML/tests/fallacy4/5.10a.html
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| | Pharyngula::Here's an atheistical virtue for you |
| | The No True Scotsman fallacy only applies when there is criterion to define what a âtrue Scotsmanâ is. | | | Obviously, this is just an isolated case, but it's striking that it exists. | | | This story is not inconceivable, but I would wait for some confirmation before accepting it as true. |
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http://pharyngula.org/index/weblog/comments/heres_an_atheistical_virtue_for_you
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| | Arab World Sees Through Cheesy Osama Videos : SF Indymedia |
| | We have absolutely no evidence that Osama bin Laden or his organization was involved in the September 11 attacks. | | | UAE CALLS TAPE CONCLUSIVE However, the United Arab Emirates and a senior diplomat from another Gulf Arab state said they were persuaded of bin Laden's role in the suicide plane attacks on the World Trade Center in New York and the Pentagon in Washington. |
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http://sf.indymedia.org/news/2001/12/112079.php
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| | Objection 7 |
| | Woodbridge argues that, for there to be an absolute standard of morality, any such standard must be defined by God. | | | But I see no evidence that there is any "absolute definition of morality." | | | Even if the rule about killing witches is no longer in effect--a part of the discontinued old covenant--one must still consider whether it could have possibly ever been the right thing to do! |
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http://www.caseagainstfaith.com/articles/objection7.htm
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| | ipedia.com: Western world Article |
| | Huntington and his followers understood "The West" to be roughly synonymous with the Euro-Atlantic civilization, although countries with roots in other civilizations, such as Greece, Turkey, or Japan, may choose to ally themselves with the West as a result of having absorbed "Western" ideas and values into their societies. | | | In Huntington's thesis, the historically Eastern Orthodox nations of southeastern and eastern Europe constitute a distinct "Euro-Asiatic civilization"; although European and Christian, these nations were not, in Huntington's view, shaped by the cultural influences of the Renaissance, Reformation, and Enlightenment, and were not "Western" in the same sense as the Euro-Atlantic civilization. | | | Huntington's thesis was influential, but was by no means universally accepted; its supporters say that it explains modern conflicts, such as those in the former Yugoslavia; the thesis' detractors fear that by equating values like democracy with "Western civilization" reinforces racist and/or xenophobic notions about "non-Western" societies. |
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http://www.ipedia.com/western_world_1.html
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| | No True Scotsman - EvoWiki |
| | you change the definition of the word to make your claim true by default: | | | This page was last modified 00:27, 25 January 2005. | | | If you made a claim containing a certain word, for example, |
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http://wiki.cotch.net/index.php?title=No_True_Scotsman_Fallacy&redirect=no
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| | No True Scotsman |
| | Maybe you could clear this simple matter up by defining for me exactly what makes one a "True Christian"(TM)? | | | AMANDA: I would say (personally - no, I don't have any survey statistics) that the majority of "Christians" in this world are not going to heaven. | | | Bruce (from dialogue with Roy Casanova): Some eighty percent of Americans call themselves "Christians" in one form or another, |
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http://www.freethoughtfirefighters.org/amanda_jones_no_true_scotsman.htm
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| | No True Jedi Fallacy - Tales of Jedi Misfits |
| | "Well, no true Jedi would accept a Resurrection Parasite." | | | "No Jedi would willingly accept a Resurrection Parasite." | | | No True Jedi Fallacy - Tales of Jedi Misfits |
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http://www.gweep.net/~jedi/pmwiki-2.0.beta37/pmwiki.php?n=Totj.NoTrueJediFallacy
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| | Oven - Sharp Microwave Oven |
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